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Don�t take a CCW, only in my role of Nevada open carry is legal. I havea standard Ruger Security-9 with a Hogue grip and several 15-round mags plus the ii 10-round mags the gun came with. A bit large for CC, only Ruger�due south website shows a new compact Security-9. Love this gun. Shoots comfortably in either hand (I�m ambidextrous). The county has a very dainty free shooting range upwardly by the dump and I bask spending mornings practicing with this and my other firearms.

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Newest serious contender in the sub-compact 9mm market was announced the other day; the Springfield Armory Hellcat.

The P365 past Sig has been the gun de jour for the size/chapters wars, simply the Hellcat beats it by ane more round for less cost.

If it manages to avert the reliability issues that continue to plague the P365, and so information technology will exist the hottest new carry pistol.

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I have some gun enthusiast friends that have mentioned the Glock 19 or 17.
Any other suggestions?

I have the Glock 29, which is the subcompact version of the 20 (10mm). It'southward kind of mesomorphic for a "subcompact" merely information technology packs a punch. Information technology too takes the total sized Glock 20 magazines if you want it to, and so you lot can run xv+i. I use the full sized magazines when I go hiking. If I muffle carry somewhere around people, I use the smaller, 10 round magazines. It'southward loud and it kicks, but I bought it with black bears and cougars in mind! (bear spray commencement, though...unless it'south windy)

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I accept a few that modify with the season. In the winter it's typically a Glock xix, while in the summer it'due south usually a Ruger LCR. I utilize Remora IWB holsters for both and really like them.

The LC9 is besides a good choice with a really good trigger.

Good luck with your decision.

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I encourage this idea... More deals to be had for me.
Majority of my guns - handguns, rifles, and shotguns were bought used. Lots of folks buy a handgun, shoot it for a bit, and trade information technology on something else.

Lately, I've been pocket carrying a Ruger LC9S Pro. Disappears in the pocket. Information technology's a dime a dozen depression $ gun that is reliable and accurate.

I like Glocks and volition rotate in a Polymer 80 SC (G26) or my Glock 19. Neither of which disappear like the Ruger.

That Polymer 80 sub-meaty is sweet. I yet have to build my compact version.

I don't see how you tin pocket carry an LC9 comfortably. I carry an LCP frequently and I can still feel it moving effectually and it'southward damn near half the weight. I have tried to pocket acquit my PM9 merely it's too heavy. I wear loose pants/shorts so maybe that is part of the deviation. I accept bought so many small guns is sickening to add together up all of the cost.

Kahr PM9, MK9 and PM45
Smith 442 and Shield
Kel-Tec P3AT and PF9
Sig P365 and P245
Glock 27
NAA Mini Mag Revolver
Ruger LCP and LCR

If one is going to holster comport I would say the P365 is at the front of the pack when you gene in the capacity.

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That Polymer lxxx sub-compact is sweetness. I still have to build my meaty version.

I don't see how yous tin can pocket carry an LC9 comfortably. I acquit an LCP frequently and I can nonetheless feel it moving effectually and information technology'southward damn near half the weight. I take tried to pocket carry my PM9 but it's also heavy. I wear loose pants/shorts then maybe that is part of the difference. I have bought and then many small guns is sickening to add up all of the cost.

Kahr PM9, MK9 and PM45
Smith 442 and Shield
Kel-Tec P3AT and PF9
Sig P365 and P245
Glock 27
NAA Mini Mag Revolver
Ruger LCP and LCR

If one is going to holster carry I would say the P365 is at the forepart of the pack when you factor in the capacity.

I find the LC9 works for pocket carry in Cargo Shorts or Vertx Cargo Pants. Tin can't carry that one in Jeans.

I recently picked up a Sig P365 and pocket carried it in public for 2 days at an off road event. A little too heavy for pocket behave and I switched it over to chugalug holster for the tertiary and fourth day.

Find the LC9 with a spare magazine in the same pocket looks a bit like a cell phone and doesn't impress too desperately. Would be a slow reload but non horrible. I too have a LCP for days I'one thousand worried about printing. It runs reliably, but for me - information technology'southward a bespeak blank shooting gun. I'yard not very accurate with it past a few yards.

I tin hit my backyard steel gong at 25yds with both the LC9, P365, and my Glocks. Latest purchase:

Comparison of my new Sig to my Ruger. The Sig is a lilliputian shorter in height and length. Only slightly chunkier in the grip.

Doesn't anybody have a range in their backyard?

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I find the LC9 works for pocket acquit in Cargo Shorts or Vertx Cargo Pants. Can't carry that one in Jeans.

I recently picked up a Sig P365 and pocket carried it in public for ii days at an off road upshot. A little besides heavy for pocket carry and I switched it over to belt holster for the 3rd and 4th solar day.

Find the LC9 with a spare mag in the same pocket looks a flake similar a cell telephone and doesn't print too badly. Would exist a slow reload but not horrible. I likewise have a LCP for days I'g worried about printing. Information technology runs reliably, merely for me - it'south a signal blank shooting gun. I'm non very accurate with it past a few yards.

I can hit my backyard steel gong at 25yds with both the LC9, P365, and my Glocks. Latest buy:

Comparison of my new Sig to my Ruger. The Sig is a little shorter in height and length. But slightly chunkier in the grip.

Doesn't anybody take a range in their backyard?

Is that the LC9 on the right? Looks pretty big to me. I wear VERTX Phantom pants all week and they are a little baggy so any pocket pistol tends to sway when I walk. Printing with the LCP is not too baggy only I would non say it is 100% reliable like my G43. I have not shot the P365 much but I have non had any issues. Information technology was made in September of 2018 I believe. Hopefully all of the teething problems were before that.

Homo, I'm jealous. I hate shooting paper at the range. So boring. I have plenty of toys merely spent the money on them instead of state. I had a decent chunk of change saved upwards for 30 acres or so only the prices went crazy around 2016.

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Is that the LC9 on the right? Looks pretty big to me. I habiliment VERTX Phantom pants all week and they are a lilliputian baggy and then any pocket pistol tends to sway when I walk. Printing with the LCP is not also baggy but I would non say information technology is 100% reliable similar my G43. I have non shot the P365 much simply I have not had any issues. It was made in September of 2018 I believe. Hopefully all of the teething issues were before that.

Human being, I'k jealous. I hate shooting paper at the range. And then ho-hum. I have plenty of toys simply spent the coin on them instead of land. I had a decent chunk of change saved upward for xxx acres or so but the prices went crazy effectually 2016.

Ruger is on the right to a higher place. I'm 6'4 220# and so my pockets may be bigger than yours.

I was pocket conveying my LCP in Carhart Jeans last night at a party. Mine came with a pocket holster from Ruger. With a spare magazine in the aforementioned pocket it looks pretty foursquare cell phone-ish to me.

I need a couple of these wallet holsters. The flap is worn facing out creating a wallet expect to it in your pocket:

Ruger LCP 380 Pocket/Wallet Holster

My only tiny pet peeve on the Sig P365 is the coarseness of the grip. Wearing it in a chugalug holster under a T-Shirt it'southward rough on my skin. They really stippled the hell out of the grip. It is heavier than the Ruger and after a day conveying it, I switch it out for my LCP.

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Ruger is on the right in a higher place. I'm 6'4 220# so my pockets may be bigger than yours.

I was pocket carrying my LCP in Carhart Jeans terminal night at a political party. Mine came with a pocket holster from Ruger. With a spare mag in the same pocket it looks pretty foursquare jail cell phone-ish to me.

I demand a couple of these wallet holsters. The flap is worn facing out creating a wallet look to information technology in your pocket:

Ruger LCP 380 Pocket/Wallet Holster

My only tiny pet peeve on the Sig P365 is the coarseness of the grip. Wearing it in a chugalug holster under a T-Shirt it'southward crude on my skin. They really stippled the hell out of the grip. It is heavier than the Ruger and afterward a solar day carrying it, I switch information technology out for my LCP.

I have seen the wallet shaped ones that have cutouts for finger but that semi-exposes the trigger. The one you lot linked avoids that problem only are a bit expensive. I usually purchase Desantis Nemesis pocket holsters but they impress somewhat obviously. I don't carry IWB that much these days simply practice prefer my G43 over the P365. If you recollect about how rare it is to go into a gunfight in a decent part of town, the chapters argument is overblown.

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Glad to hear Sheriff Gore has finally started issuing.

Won't really get into quotient because everyone has a different opinion and comfort level. Most important thing is to try the available options to run across what works for your hands and train regularly, simulating real life situations and understand practicality vs perception (hype). That may dictate what you terminate up with vs what you originally choose.

If you plan on sticking to the CA rostered stuff for EDC,
the gen3 G26/27 or G19 as they're inexpensive and easily replaceable with parts readily available. Aforementioned goes with Grand&P Shield. G42/43 is probably too small-scale but ameliorate than nothing. That'due south assuming any fit your hands because the aforementioned are non the best ergonomically.

I don't remember what else is left on the roster that are worth mentioning for EDC since CC wasn't an option when I was withal in SD. Being in a more often than not free state, we take the HK SKs such as the VP9SK every bit options hither and, if you have the take chances, would recommend giving those a endeavour as it it's the aforementioned size equally the G19 simply superior ergonomically. Although I have e'er trained with Glocks, the HK is a better feel and is my primary now. Merely downside I can remember of is the premium information technology'll cost to obtain one in CA. Have likewise heard good things nigh the Sig P365 but no experience with it. I only know FTF issues plagued our other SIG and I would accept a hard time trusting some other SIG at this point.

OP, if I were still in CA pondering your situation, it would be a Glock due to the applied reasons (and information technology fits my hands). The Glock products are pretty consistent in feel across each model (trigger, ergonomics, functioning) so if you choose to train on the platform, there's not much of an adjustment when moving from ane model to another if y'all own multiple Glocks. Y'all don't take much to think virtually in stress situations, just indicate and shoot. It's kind of like a 4Runner, reliable, easy to operate and maintain and enough of support for it OEM or aftermarket.

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Same goes with M&P Shield. G42/43 is probably also small but better than nothing. That'southward assuming whatsoever fit your easily because the same are not the best ergonomically.

to anyone buying a CA shield:
become the LCI delete kit, and eliminate the no mag/no fire consequence (i believe you mod a 1911 leap, google it).

the LCIs on the CA sheilds obstruct the view on your sights and brand information technology very hard to see what yous are aiming at and makes it unsafe (california has a history of making firearms more than 'safe', but it is far more dangerous to the end user, see also fin grips).

the mag safety is just as impaired as the LCI obtrusion. if you drib your mag in a super stressful situation, but you have one in the piping, your firearm is now a glorified paperweight until yous get that magazine in.

g42 and g43 are non on the roster. there isnt a singlestack glock on the roster. they were released after the single shot loophole airtight.

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OP, other than a few sigs and CZs on the roster in that location isnt a semi machine on the roster i would trust my life with other than a glock. dan wessons and wilsons are fine, but merely too much coin. five.seven is besides oddball of a caliber and you technically arent immune to carry with the capacity it was intended with (ane of the huge pluses with 5.7). kahrs and the inexpensive rugers are crap. every make new kimber ive shot out of the box was too tight and had issues with feeding the adjacent round. the grip safeties on the springfields are terrible equally in one case it goes down the firearm is now a paperweight. the shield is a great starter pistol if you can draw a sub compact single stack with ease and do the mods i recommend. i also recommend the hyve basepads, they give you more real estate for your pinky/ring finger.

im certain someone will disagree with me, but ive handled a lot of pistols in my life and i used to work at a shop/range where i was able to tell customers how i actually felt almost stuff.

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this post is limited to semi autos only. i am not talking virtually revolvers.

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g42 and g43 are not on the roster. at that place isnt a singlestack glock on the roster. they were released after the unmarried shot loophole closed.

They were released after SSE loophole airtight but are nonetheless legal to own in CA via other methods of acquisition. Whether it tin can be listed as 1 of your CCW pieces is up to your IA. I legally bought and sold both the G42 and G43 and many other off-roster items before leaving CA. Only don't be surprised to see asking prices at 2x what they're really worth (compared to ownership in a free state). The roster is a joke.

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